General 40k Shinanigans

Two batreps, a tourney, and progress!

So, it’s my bi-weekly blog entry (it’s turning into that it seems).  This past Saturday I made it to a tourney.  First one in a long time.  It was a 1000 point list and I had one goal: Try out some new stuff.  So, I ran my daemons.  I ran this list:

Lord of Change w/ Exalted reward

Great Unclean One w/ Exalted Reward, ML 2

16 Bloodletters w/ Banner of Blood

18 Daemonettes

Exalted Seeker Chariot

I really wanted to try out the chariot and lord of change.   I used my floating eyeball, on suggestion of a friend.  This is the model I used

20120313-101546.jpgIt’s really one of my favorite conversions.  I just wanted a way to use this guy more often.  Also, I wanted to really try out the seeker chariots more.  So I ran them.  Well…the seeker chariot was a bust, but largely because it was alone.  The lord of change was fun, but he is very much a middle of the road MC.  Yeah, divination is cool.  However, having no shooting that can reliably even get shot simply sucks!  That deny the witch pops up at ugly times.  So, I went 1-2, not my best.  However, I did walk away with best HQ model painted, and while I don’t have a nice lightbox pic of it, here it is from the store’s FB page

Ironically, though he is a nurgle lord, I rarely use nurgle lords in games.

So, with my winnings and a previous win, I picked up 2 seeker chariots, determined to use these guys more because I just love chariots.  Can’t beat all those auto-hits, not rolling for difficult terrain (well, 3D6 that is) and the potential for a devastating hit.

So last night I ran a 1500 list.  It’s a throwback theme from a long time ago to the concept of the “Brazen Host”, a Khorne led Khorne and Slaanesh host led by the Bloodthirster Gore Lord (WD 368).  It was daemons with CSM allies (basically, summoned daemeons by the CSMs).  I ran:

Herald of Khorne w/ Exalted Gift on Throne of Blood

Herald of Slaanesh w/ Greater Reward and Loci of Beguilement on Steed of Slaanesh

16 Bloodletters w/ Banner of Blood

18 Daemonettes

Seeker Cavalcade w/ Exalted Chariot and 2 Seeker Chariots

Dark Apostle

Chaos Contemptor Dread w/ Powerfist, Chainfist, 2x melta guns, Extra Armor, Dedication to Khorne

9 CSM w/ Mark of Khorne, extra CCW, Melta Gun in Rhino

Predator w/ Lascannon Sponsons

He ran a mixed CSM and Daemons list as well, running mono-nurgle w/ plague marines and Typhus and a daemon prince as well as a helldrake w/ baleflamer.  All in all, significantly less models.

We played Target Priority from over at Creative Twilight.

I’ll just hit on the highlights of some of the units I was testing.

He wet first, but due to a shortage of shooting didn’t do much.  He did advance the plague drones which had been grimoired.  This allowed for my seeker cavalcade to get it’s first true attack.  Slamming all 3 into them drones, I scored a whopping 27 Hammer of Wraith attacks, dumping I think 6 or 7, doing 2.  My alluresses had 15 more attacks but did nothing.  However, he failed to get any wounds past my saves and then int turn rolled a 10 on his instability (with an icon, means 4 wounds).  With that he tried to run, the chariots ran him down the next turn, followed by the chariots hammering the daemon prince down the following turn, leading into the last turn of combat.

My daemonettes outflanked with the herald.  With that, to protect them from the bale flamer I ran 8″ and bubble-wrapped his own unit of plaguemarines to minimize the bale flamer hit.  He assaulted them, but with the herald with a greater ether blade and rerolling all misses, plus what was still 14 daemonettes at that point after shooting the plaguemarines did not fair well and died in two rounds of combat against the daemonettes.

The center combat which eventually included

Herald of Khorne, Herald of Slaanesh, Bloodletters, Daemonettes, Seeker Cavalcade, Typhus, Plaguemarines, Plaguebearers, Herald of Nurgle, and the Contemptor Dreadnought decided the game.

The combat had ground on for a few rounds.  The plaguebearers had the ability to glance the contemptor to death, but needed a 6 to pen.  The bloodletters, herald of Khorne, Contemptor had battled it out for a few rounds with Typhus, plague marines, and the plaguebearers.  The contemptor was killing a few plaguebearers each turn, the bloodletters being wholly ineffectual at hurting typhus with his 2+ and FNP (which he made a HUGE number of).

The last round of combat the daemonettes assault in as well as the chariots.  The chariots scored a massive 32 hammer of wrath hits on the plaguebearers with 11 wounds and 6 unsaved wounds.  The daemonettes swung next and finished off all but the herald who had one wound left.  After this the contemptor swung at the plaguemarines and wounded enough to push through to typhus.  He fails two one invuln and the S10 wound killed him.  He had lost by 14, so the instability test was not good for him and the herald died.  We called it at that as he only had the helldrake flying around.

I learned a few valuable lessons.  First, Seeker Cavalcades against assault oriented armies are brutal.  I will try them out against a more shooty army next week.  Also, the daemonettes with outflank and acute senses made getting them into combat significantly easier.

Also, the predator did nothing except almost kill itself to “Gets Hot!” from weapon virus (Typhus).  The major problem was a lack of anti-air power.  I may drop 20 points somehow from something else and swap it out for a soul-grinder or I could go ahead and opt for a squad of Auto-Cannons havocs for the same cost (though I like the good mix of AV and toughness to make it difficult for people to put the seekers high on the target priority list).

The close-comabat oriented Contemptor was very worthwhile, but I am just not sure if it beats out the butcher cannon variant for cheaper.  I COULD swap out the close combat contemptor for a dual butcher cannon contemptor and then drop the predator for a soulgrinder (stock) of Khorne.  If I then dropped another 20 pts (not sure from what) I could pick up baleful torrent.  This would give me some skyfire and a unit that can crank out 8 S8 shots at BS 4.  But, I think I will try the list as is at least once more.

 

Thanks for reading,

KI

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2 responses

  1. I love the Forgefiend. A Predator is a good buy at AV13 and some good weapon options but the problem I have with tanks is the whole moving and snap firing element. Walkers do not share that issue and the Forgefiend comes with the invuln and it will not die. It costs more but also puts out 8 x S8 shots a turn with the ability to get re-rolls on pens/wounds once a game. It’s BS3 but volume of fire helps offset that and when it comes to firing at a flyer being BS3 doesn’t matter and again volume of fire helps here. You should try it out some game.

    As for chariots, the rule has always been that if one is good then two is better. I mean that in general, not just chariots. That’s why those awesome spam armies exist; they build solely on that principle. Shooty armies will make your life harder with them but having the duplication should help you get at least one of them there.

    February 21, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    • Yeah, I love the forgefiend. I even largely like the model (unlike the helldrake…which we have discussed). However, weighing in at 175 points I would need to scrounge up an extra 60 points… But if I paired it with the contemptor, those 16 S8 shots at AP4 would mean that gunline armies would really struggle to focus on things like my chariots while getting hammered with such a high volume of high S fire. Good idea.

      February 21, 2014 at 4:18 pm

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