General 40k Shinanigans

Balance through Budget- GW price hikes and how they compare between armies

So, as I look back over my past tourney list and wonder what went well, what went poorly I realize the money maker was the infantry.  So I sit down and crank the numbers.


SO if I run a normal ‘ard boyz grossness list (2500 points)

If I ran 4 platoons with 4 squads each, each with a melta gun and lascannon that makes 16 melta and 16 lascannons.  Then you add a platoon command squad with 2 plasma guns and a lascannon totaling 8 plasma guns and 20 lascannons now and 4 plasma pistols (platoon leader).  PLUS, each SGT and commissar has a power weapon (1 commissar per platoon) with a powerfist in the platoon command squads added with straken and you have a total of 20 power weapons in the army and 4 power fists, and placed well they all have counter attack and furious charge (because big blogs are easy to string out).  

Add onto this a command squad in a chimera with straken with medic, vox caster, and krak grenades and it leaves you room for 2 PBS with 8 psykers each.  

So now you have an army that can pump out a LOT of anti-tank and if you get within 12″ (so 18″ at the start the guardsmen’s movement) and he can first rank fire, second rank fire that means a whopping 24 lasguns per platoon with 3 shots each totaling to 72 shots.  At BS3, 36 will hit.  If I have to roll a 5 to wound a marine, that means 12 wounds, which then means 4 die.  Since most squads are less than 16, and I didn’t count the lascannons or melta guns, that means that lasguns alone, under 12″, can break a marine squad quite handily and send it packing.  And if you assault it.  Well, you are going to face 20 power weapon attacks PLUS 68 regular attacks.  That’s a lot of attacks, I don’t care who you are.  


SO, to the point.  Nasty huh.  Is it a winner?  *Shrug*.  But it is certainly brutal in my opinion, and it mirrors similar winning lists I have seen of IG.  HOWEVER.


That is 16 squads (less 16 heavy weapon bases, which means 160-32= 128) which comes out to 13 squad boxes.  Plus 4 platoon command boxes (less 4 heavy weapon teams which equals 20-8=12) round up to 3, a chimera, company command box, Straken, 16 PBS guys (blisters of 3) so 6 blisters, and 20 heavy weapon bases (boxes of 3) so 7 boxes.


Let’s add that up shall we?


13*29=377 dollars for the infantry


38.75*7=271.25 for the heavy weapons


4*25= 100 for the command squads

6*15=90 for the PBS




377+35+271.25+15+100+90=888.25 for the army.  That’s a lot. BUT, it’s cheaper if you use tanks (not gonna break it down, but when you spend 50 for a single unit that can cost upwards of 250 points, that’s  a LOT cheaper).  It’s also cheaper to use an army like Grey knights.  Let’s run THOSE numbers shall we?


5*50=250 for 25 terminators/paladins

15 for an assassin

22.5 for a librarian

22.25 for draigo

66 for stormraven

133.5 for 3 dreads

21.5 for techmarine


That’s 530.75 for an army that I am sure goes over 2500 (I just ran the numbers, don’t have the codex).  

So, while that’s still a lot, it’s almost 350 dollars exactly cheaper than the IG option.  


SO, the moral of this story is that budget is also a balancing factor.  So if you are among those bitching that the price of some models have gone up, check stuff like this.  Not saying that’s the reason, but it’s always frustrating to see a guy slap some stuff together he got off the internet for the cheapest cost and run up against veteran players and stomp them because of the army, not because of practice or experience.  That might make it fun for some, but it ruins the time of experienced players who feel that they have built their armies over time to have a balanced force to run across min aramies with only the units to build these lists with.  GW may be trying to counter this by balancing this out, that way you can’t go in and say I am gonna buy the minimum stuff to win and avoid buying over time.  Higher costs prevent army hopping as well, so when a new book comes out 50% of tourney entries aren’t the new book (because the people who USED to play that book often find that annoying).  Higher prices don’t hurt the hobby, they actually help it, forcing people to develop lists and gradually build armies.  I haven’t seen what is going up, but I have heard suggestions that armies such as GK, BA, some codex marine units, SW, and other top tier armies.  Remember, GW has overhead even for the models they don’t sell a lot of, so it makes sense to push a higher price to the models that EVERYONE buys which both makes more money and also serves to possibly balance the community dispersion of armies.


just my 2 cents




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